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On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > I agree that it would be awesome to offer these types of stats with the
> installer; unfortunately the route I've taken has dependencies on several
> other other pieces of software to do all the heavy lifting of stats
> aggregation and chart rendering. I'm assuming that you would not want to
> build any of that processing into Bitcoin Core itself; would you be opposed
> to packaging other software along with the installer?
>
> Depends on just how much stuff it is. The idea is primarily to have an
> installer for running a (wallet-less) node as an OS background
> service.
>
> Having some statistics available would be worth some extra download
> size, otherwise it would be pretty much invisible.
>
> We'd already decided that we would need something like Python for the
> stats service. Implementing things like web services in C++ is just
> not realistic given the time constraints and the great already-written
> code that is out there. As an optional tool it should be external, not
> part of bitcoind itself.
>
> I suppose the chart rendering happens client-side? In that case the
> web service just has to collect and provide the data, and serve static
> html/js files.
>

Is SNMP an option? That way you do not need to implement clients and there
are many tools written.


> Wladimir
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W=
ed, May 7, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wladimir <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:laanwj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">laanwj@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
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ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"">On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jameson Lopp &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:jameson.lopp@gmail.com">jameson.lopp@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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</div><div class=3D"">&gt; I agree that it would be awesome to offer these =
types of stats with the installer; unfortunately the route I&#39;ve taken h=
as dependencies on several other other pieces of software to do all the hea=
vy lifting of stats aggregation and chart rendering. I&#39;m assuming that =
you would not want to build any of that processing into Bitcoin Core itself=
; would you be opposed to packaging other software along with the installer=
?<br>


<br>
</div>Depends on just how much stuff it is. The idea is primarily to have a=
n<br>
installer for running a (wallet-less) node as an OS background<br>
service.<br>
<br>
Having some statistics available would be worth some extra download<br>
size, otherwise it would be pretty much invisible.<br>
<br>
We&#39;d already decided that we would need something like Python for the<b=
r>
stats service. Implementing things like web services in C++ is just<br>
not realistic given the time constraints and the great already-written<br>
code that is out there. As an optional tool it should be external, not<br>
part of bitcoind itself.<br>
<br>
I suppose the chart rendering happens client-side? In that case the<br>
web service just has to collect and provide the data, and serve static<br>
html/js files.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Is SNMP an option? That =
way you do not need to implement clients and there are many tools written.<=
/div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Wladimir<br>
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