Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <nelsoneci@gmail.com>) id 1Wi8SU-0000m7-Ta for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 07 May 2014 20:28:54 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175; envelope-from=nelsoneci@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f175.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Wi8ST-0007io-Rs for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 07 May 2014 20:28:54 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id wo20so1878459obc.20 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Wed, 07 May 2014 13:28:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.79.9 with SMTP id f9mr12029056obx.64.1399494528336; Wed, 07 May 2014 13:28:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.14.65 with HTTP; Wed, 7 May 2014 13:28:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CA+s+GJCaUX3ErgVean0e91CBorPc6RNKgYs08fOOsqNYtbd6RA@mail.gmail.com> References: <536A8592.8010009@gmail.com> <CA+s+GJASND3OU2e+YxUeLmSOW6pTkMwuzHCHeJnnihg6xK9Caw@mail.gmail.com> <536A902C.6080602@gmail.com> <CA+s+GJCaUX3ErgVean0e91CBorPc6RNKgYs08fOOsqNYtbd6RA@mail.gmail.com> From: Nelson Castillo <nelsoneci@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 15:28:28 -0500 Message-ID: <CAPFxkVmPVp01hVMbNsseOJ=5MyCCQ9J1cYChK3-Z93UDp6qP9Q@mail.gmail.com> To: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e40163a08b404f8d536b4 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (nelsoneci[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1Wi8ST-0007io-Rs Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Announcing the Statoshi fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 20:28:55 -0000 --047d7b2e40163a08b404f8d536b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail.com> > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I agree that it would be awesome to offer these types of stats with the > installer; unfortunately the route I've taken has dependencies on several > other other pieces of software to do all the heavy lifting of stats > aggregation and chart rendering. I'm assuming that you would not want to > build any of that processing into Bitcoin Core itself; would you be opposed > to packaging other software along with the installer? > > Depends on just how much stuff it is. The idea is primarily to have an > installer for running a (wallet-less) node as an OS background > service. > > Having some statistics available would be worth some extra download > size, otherwise it would be pretty much invisible. > > We'd already decided that we would need something like Python for the > stats service. Implementing things like web services in C++ is just > not realistic given the time constraints and the great already-written > code that is out there. As an optional tool it should be external, not > part of bitcoind itself. > > I suppose the chart rendering happens client-side? In that case the > web service just has to collect and provide the data, and serve static > html/js files. > Is SNMP an option? That way you do not need to implement clients and there are many tools written. > Wladimir > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find > out: > • 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity > • Requirements for releasing software faster > • Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > --047d7b2e40163a08b404f8d536b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On W= ed, May 7, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wladimir <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailt= o:laanwj@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">laanwj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote= :<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le= ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div class=3D"">On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Jameson Lopp <<a href=3D= "mailto:jameson.lopp@gmail.com">jameson.lopp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br> > Hash: SHA1<br> ><br> </div><div class=3D"">> I agree that it would be awesome to offer these = types of stats with the installer; unfortunately the route I've taken h= as dependencies on several other other pieces of software to do all the hea= vy lifting of stats aggregation and chart rendering. I'm assuming that = you would not want to build any of that processing into Bitcoin Core itself= ; would you be opposed to packaging other software along with the installer= ?<br> <br> </div>Depends on just how much stuff it is. The idea is primarily to have a= n<br> installer for running a (wallet-less) node as an OS background<br> service.<br> <br> Having some statistics available would be worth some extra download<br> size, otherwise it would be pretty much invisible.<br> <br> We'd already decided that we would need something like Python for the<b= r> stats service. Implementing things like web services in C++ is just<br> not realistic given the time constraints and the great already-written<br> code that is out there. As an optional tool it should be external, not<br> part of bitcoind itself.<br> <br> I suppose the chart rendering happens client-side? In that case the<br> web service just has to collect and provide the data, and serve static<br> html/js files.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Is SNMP an option? That = way you do not need to implement clients and there are many tools written.<= /div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0= .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br> Wladimir<br> </font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---<br> Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? 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