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[76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id rb8sm18815240pab.14.2015.09.28.04.04.42 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 28 Sep 2015 04:04:43 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <CA+w+GKRCVr-9TVk66utp7xLRgTxNpxYoj3XQE-6y_N8JS6eO6Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <20150927185031.GA20599@savin.petertodd.org> <CA+w+GKRCVr-9TVk66utp7xLRgTxNpxYoj3XQE-6y_N8JS6eO6Q@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----K2XHMH7BJOG79D2F9JZZ0RFBKDRHUF" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 04:04:49 -0700 To: Mike Hearn <hearn@vinumeris.com>, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org> Message-ID: <10248633-FD7B-4D07-B4A2-27EC5D0AC0D3@gmail.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Let's deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY! X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:04:44 -0000 ------K2XHMH7BJOG79D2F9JZZ0RFBKDRHUF Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 My initial reaction is just HUH?!?!? Is this some sophisticated form of humor I'm just not getting? On September 28, 2015 3:48:57 AM PDT, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >There is *no* consensus on using a soft fork to deploy this feature. It >will result in the same problems as all the other soft forks - SPV >wallets >will become less reliable during the rollout period. I am against that, >as >it's entirely avoidable. > >Make it a hard fork and my objection will be dropped. > >Until then, as there is no consensus, you need to do one of two things: > >1) Drop the "everyone must agree to make changes" idea that people here >like to peddle, and do it loudly, so everyone in the community is >correctly >informed > >2) Do nothing > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >bitcoin-dev mailing list >bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ------K2XHMH7BJOG79D2F9JZZ0RFBKDRHUF Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <html><head></head><body>My initial reaction is just HUH?!?!? Is this some sophisticated form of humor I'm just not getting?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On September 28, 2015 3:48:57 AM PDT, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">There is <b>no</b> consensus on using a soft fork to deploy this feature. It will result in the same problems as all the other soft forks - SPV wallets will become less reliable during the rollout period. I am against that, as it's entirely avoidable.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="gmail_extra">Make it a hard fork and my objection will be dropped.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="gmail_extra">Until then, as there is no consensus, you need to do one of two things:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="gmail_extra">1) Drop the "everyone must agree to make changes" idea that people here like to peddle, and do it loudly, so everyone in the community is correctly informed</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="gmail_extra">2) Do nothing</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br /></div></div> <p style="margin-top: 2.5em; margin-bottom: 1em; border-bottom: 1px solid #000"></p><pre class="k9mail"><hr /><br />bitcoin-dev mailing list<br />bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org<br /><a href="https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br /></pre></blockquote></div><br> -- <br> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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