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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WOAO1-0002LN-KC Cc: Wendell <w@grabhive.com>, Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] moving the default display to mbtc X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:29:46 -0000 --001a1135f1b0e6959f04f48122b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > You would only need to change it if there was a sub-satoshi hardfork, > which doesn't seem necessary anytime soon. > + We shouldn't make any assumptions about the future price of bitcoin to make > the decision. > Hmmm ;) Didn't you just make an assumption about the future price? > This sounds very US-centric to me. Aren't you thinking in usd? > The currencies I'm familiar with are CHF, USD, EUR and GBP, which all have roughly similar values. I guess such currencies make up the bulk of the Bitcoin userbase at the moment. > "People seem to like mBTC" is just an ad populum fallacy: millions of > flies can actually be wrong. Also you haven't showed them micros, > maybe they like it too. Saying "it's already popular and would take work to change" is not really a fallacy now, is it? But anyway, this is getting silly. You don't have to convince me. Go visit all the services I listed above, plus all the ones I didn't find in my five minutes of searching, and convince them they're wrong like the flies and switching is the best use of their time :o --001a1135f1b0e6959f04f48122b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"">You would only need to change it= if there was a sub-satoshi hardfork, which doesn't seem necessary anyt= ime soon.</div> </blockquote><div><br></div><div>+</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D= "gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding= -left:1ex"> <div class=3D"">We shouldn't make any assumptions about the future pric= e of bitcoin to make the decision.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hm= mm ;) Didn't you just make an assumption about the future price?</div> <div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8= ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"">This sounds= very US-centric to me. Aren't you thinking in usd?<br></div></blockquo= te><div> <br></div><div>The currencies I'm familiar with are CHF, USD, EUR and G= BP, which all have roughly similar values. I guess such currencies make up = the bulk of the Bitcoin userbase at the moment.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><bloc= kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #cc= c solid;padding-left:1ex"> "People seem to like mBTC" is just an ad populum fallacy: million= s of<br> flies can actually be wrong. Also you haven't showed them micros,<br> maybe they like it too.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Saying "it'= ;s already popular and would take work to change" is not really a fall= acy now, is it?</div><div><br></div><div>But anyway, this is getting silly.= You don't have to convince me. Go visit all the services I listed abov= e, plus all the ones I didn't find in my five minutes of searching, and= convince them they're wrong like the flies and switching is the best u= se of their time :o=C2=A0</div> </div></div></div> --001a1135f1b0e6959f04f48122b9--