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To: slush X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (will.yager[at]gmail.com) -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.192.43 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WzSRI-0005Ag-Vg Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposed BIP 70 extension X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:15:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail-A1001625-1CE3-4894-B524-D674A21ED69C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Jun 24, 2014, at 10:32, slush wrote: >=20 > Sounds like marketing bullshit to me. It does not have even statistical me= aning; well, you can "save" a lot of satoshis, but nobody tell you that the m= erchant cut you on BTC/USD exchange rate in tens of %. People would also abuse this feature in the same way amazon (and other sales= sites) abuse the definition of "save". For example, Amazon will indicate th= at you're getting x% off by shopping at amazon, but all that number really m= eans is x% off MSRP. In reality, every website has the same price. I have no= doubt that merchants would put similarly meaningless and/or misleading data= in this field.=20 I agree, the memo field is appropriate for this data.=20= --Apple-Mail-A1001625-1CE3-4894-B524-D674A21ED69C Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIDYjCCA14w ggJGoAMCAQICAQEwCwYJKoZIhvcNAQELMEoxFjAUBgNVBAMMDVdpbGxpYW0gWWFnZXIxCzAJBgNV BAYTAlVTMSMwIQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhR3aWxsLnlhZ2VyQGdtYWlsLmNvbTAeFw0xMzExMTMyMzQ0 MDlaFw0xNDExMTMyMzQ0MDlaMEoxFjAUBgNVBAMMDVdpbGxpYW0gWWFnZXIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVT MSMwIQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhR3aWxsLnlhZ2VyQGdtYWlsLmNvbTCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQAD ggEPADCCAQoCggEBAK+DkBdyRq8raiByDg9lye6EyMxmVstEg7/+Tw+BFyvoiPsIlmMzhJ3o8Vhl 8m3rn5JVun5h+BrWW5Efb4i+n7/3zmX0JHeR27Fl2r7KiyZnmeVUWGefiqTr1UmP+jN+wd2qZA5C N4EzHlV4AkGGD/+lYxJqj9VXCRMoguV16G5LaUlNIsrsSiMeQ5htXS2LgTMzl/+KDuQ28yKrFfE/ puBtg33IRM4t0LV/X5ePfHY6UirDLdg/0E9QkkNeFyfegftRNNqsxpR00727C3iZd1R2/0r5ePdo ZZ26i6ccnCTlAd3cw2KONnoYIXauTYu9ZltrdTil//jARFjdvw0MEQECAwEAAaNRME8wDgYDVR0P AQH/BAQDAgL8MBwGA1UdJQEB/wQSMBAGCCsGAQUFBwMEBgRVHSUAMB8GA1UdEQQYMBaBFHdpbGwu eWFnZXJAZ21haWwuY29tMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAA4IBAQCEFtUaBk/T6t7Z7LiNsWbWxYaV+e5I Sv1Xgcf+HUveHF2pNPy1dESKm4SwFgzeXRbFrJoR9iAUn5Sp4BW7BK36HAgi4R4nTPPlnDOuwuhg PayrIjP4hxJs56sxeloeakgXhryON0OmQDBCTsStZo1yJQ2ThGXrvlhJVCYu5q781QvLdO+FrNkT v/G+SNsPf+rZviqiUdw645x8fbfvEXMKgYWvyvXlCGGMNNi2/DzqNqY+oBaLeX4GJTdgly//FcNm U0SAH/9VM6UubDnqf1zcPMbTNDrBWvq82Oj1ABRuDCZ3N+A4Wbe/z5Y6C1E47QdIu1Ubecxh0/hF oBQbvkQjMYICmTCCApUCAQEwTzBKMRYwFAYDVQQDDA1XaWxsaWFtIFlhZ2VyMQswCQYDVQQGEwJV UzEjMCEGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYUd2lsbC55YWdlckBnbWFpbC5jb20CAQEwCQYFKw4DAhoFAKCCAR8w GAYJKoZIhvcNAQkDMQsGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAcBgkqhkiG9w0BCQUxDxcNMTQwNjI0MTUxNTEwWjAj BgkqhkiG9w0BCQQxFgQU2+ox30T4hDc0AO2MMZbgFVOk5LgwXgYJKwYBBAGCNxAEMVEwTzBKMRYw FAYDVQQDDA1XaWxsaWFtIFlhZ2VyMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzEjMCEGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYUd2lsbC55 YWdlckBnbWFpbC5jb20CAQEwYAYLKoZIhvcNAQkQAgsxUaBPMEoxFjAUBgNVBAMMDVdpbGxpYW0g WWFnZXIxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMSMwIQYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFhR3aWxsLnlhZ2VyQGdtYWlsLmNvbQIB ATANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQEFAASCAQCm9Be+3IMbGhLVYxs4h6lmgjyObRdOgx+odYiD3DGNQqZ55Oa0 rtUAr1XmyEBC/6FavPHNwpPOL1jaRTS0DPMQSSX5BzyetEPp8RFz440VRnl6OOLvlWVwcU4ipdKU //7lAnGMA8fVZ4W5nLP/aggirglo7gQ9wQem6s9jVlbrxPBCvFywmF14vO4hjXzHkJ3NQrYCPiV1 qSiB6Q06LYT18vbx4xuo1vPCrOQ/GPoFqZQHb+KDK6Ruq+pyVOfqg2t8ZCI8SZNJaPI6LOI4oVTM ITh5n+7VjMELcvyrHgTOhOhfRsIy9hb9GDnEpkZ8p6Pdt/nsVTEG98m4lPZFfugxAAAAAAAA --Apple-Mail-A1001625-1CE3-4894-B524-D674A21ED69C--