Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <jan.moller@gmail.com>) id 1WcWOm-00084U-Al for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:49:52 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.53; envelope-from=jan.moller@gmail.com; helo=mail-qa0-f53.google.com; Received: from mail-qa0-f53.google.com ([209.85.216.53]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WcWOg-0003lQ-Jf for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:49:52 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id w8so4671083qac.26 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:49:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.16.198 with SMTP id 64mr50017679qgb.10.1398156581183; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.24.201 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 01:49:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgQJ2EULensrGfB-Rj95+MyxtkQFUHaKs_bJOOBBTqPE_Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAC7yFxSE8-TWPN-kuFiqdPKMDuprbiVJi7-z-ym+AUyA_f-xJw@mail.gmail.com> <6669921.kYEqrMqt0u@crushinator> <CAAS2fgSfiYwD-M7+k65JF0Kjeod1zEiPcxPN1iDBHLzYV7UQyA@mail.gmail.com> <16848732.PiyLLsBBZa@crushinator> <CAC7yFxR7XWtFSMeHgbMZOMKbr+kK_7Ezb7zBUQP08rfC0am9sQ@mail.gmail.com> <CABh=4qNaJht-MnnjEguZ=UOuXN3uQ-s4-dkDUVErbHj6W44J_g@mail.gmail.com> <CAAS2fgQJ2EULensrGfB-Rj95+MyxtkQFUHaKs_bJOOBBTqPE_Q@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 10:49:41 +0200 Message-ID: <CABh=4qPMtnZsPfanJgi63vo6Bt4TTQLx7EqJh268+NUxb4gC7A@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_M=C3=B8ller?= <jan.moller@gmail.com> To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c0ff125ca7b904f79db2d9 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jan.moller[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WcWOg-0003lQ-Jf Cc: bitcoin-development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Presenting a BIP for Shamir's Secret Sharing of Bitcoin private keys X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: jan.moller@gmail.com List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:49:52 -0000 --001a11c0ff125ca7b904f79db2d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did comment on it back in october ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D258678.msg3298089#msg3298089) :-) But I must admit that I haven't been tracking it since then. I have never been a proponent of BIP 38 (which this BIP is derived from) and generally think that encrypting a secret with a human generated password is silly for many reasons (Let me know if I should repeat my list of concerns). As far as I remember we are pretty much on the same page here= . Using SSS is superior in every way that I can think of. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>wrote= : > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Jan M=C3=B8ller <jan.moller@gmail.com> w= rote: > > This is a very useful BIP, and I am very much looking forward to > > implementing it in Mycelium, in particular for bip32 wallets. > > I haven't seen commentary from you on the Kogelman draft, it would be > helpful there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D258678.0 > --001a11c0ff125ca7b904f79db2d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">I did comment on it back in october (<a href=3D"https://bi= tcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D258678.msg3298089#msg3298089">https://bitco= intalk.org/index.php?topic=3D258678.msg3298089#msg3298089</a>) :-)<div>But = I must admit that I haven't been tracking it since then.</div> <div><br></div><div>I have never been a proponent of BIP 38 (which this BIP= is derived from) and generally think that encrypting a secret with a human= generated password is silly for many reasons (Let me know if I should repe= at my list of concerns). As far as I remember we are pretty much on the sam= e page here.</div> <div>Using SSS is superior in every way that I can think of.</div></div><di= v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 22, = 2014 at 10:15 AM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:g= maxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>></span> wrot= e:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"">On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:06= AM, Jan M=C3=B8ller <<a href=3D"mailto:jan.moller@gmail.com">jan.moller= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > This is a very useful BIP, and I am very much looking forward to<br> > implementing it in Mycelium, in particular for bip32 wallets.<br> <br> </div>I haven't seen commentary from you on the Kogelman draft, it woul= d be<br> helpful there: <a href=3D"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D258678.= 0" target=3D"_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D258678.0</a>= <br> </blockquote></div><br></div> --001a11c0ff125ca7b904f79db2d9--