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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:39:33 +0200
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From: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in
 Windows XP (or drop support?)
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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>wrote:

> Bringing the thread back on-topic:
>

Thanks.


>  On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet
> > banking with Windows XP.
> > If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not
> > secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they
> > have no keys to protect).
> > Any opinions on what to do here?
>
> I think eventually multi-wallet support will make it so that a wallet
> won't be created by default.


After the wallet split-off this will also be easier:

- Bitcoin Core Node
- Bitcoin Core Wallet

The node would be as compatible as possible with any OS in existence, but
the wallet can be more picky.


> Instead users would create-wallet, which
> would also give them options like using a HSM (e.g. trezor) or
> multisig secured wallet.


HSMs complicate this; I'm not even sure how this will work, are the Trezor
guys planning to contribute support for their device to wallets including
Bitcoin Core?

Hopefully by that time, everyone will have forgotten about XP already :)

Wladimir

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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:06 AM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Bringing the thread back =
on-topic:<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks.<br></div><div>=C2=A0<=
/div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"">
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Wladimir &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:laanwj@gmai=
l.com">laanwj@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"">&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt; Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet=
<br>
&gt; banking with Windows XP.<br>
&gt; If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it&#39;s CERTAINLY=
 not<br>
&gt; secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as t=
hey<br>
&gt; have no keys to protect).<br>
&gt; Any opinions on what to do here?<br>
<br>
</div>I think eventually multi-wallet support will make it so that a wallet=
<br>
won&#39;t be created by default. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>After the=
 wallet split-off this will also be easier:<br></div><div><br>- Bitcoin Cor=
e Node<br></div><div>- Bitcoin Core Wallet<br></div><div><br></div><div>
The node would be as compatible as possible with any OS in existence, but t=
he wallet can be more picky.<br><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204=
,204);padding-left:1ex">
Instead users would create-wallet, which<br>
would also give them options like using a HSM (e.g. trezor) or<br>
multisig secured wallet. =C2=A0</blockquote><div><br></div><div>HSMs compli=
cate this; I&#39;m not even sure how this will work, are the Trezor guys pl=
anning to contribute support for their device to wallets including Bitcoin =
Core?<br>
<br></div><div>Hopefully by that time, everyone will have forgotten about X=
P already :)<br></div><br>Wladimir<br><br></div></div></div></div>

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