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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.3 HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD BODY: HTML font face is not a word 1.7 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist [URIs: bitcoin.org.uk] X-Headers-End: 1QocQ3-0002jA-40 Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] DNS seeds returning gone peers X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 14:27:36 -0000 --000e0cd48ebe292f5704a99a4916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mike, I think I can contribute to your DNS seeding project. Could you help define long-lived peers? -rick On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote: > This is expected to happen from time to time of course as it's inherently > racy, but there are a *lot* of bad nodes appearing in the DNS seeds. > > $ nmap -oG /tmp/x -p 8333 `dig +short bitseed.bitcoin.org.uk > dnsseed.bluematt.me bitseed.xf2.org` > ... > Nmap done: 48 IP addresses (25 hosts up) scanned in 9.80 seconds > > $ grep -c 'closed' /tmp/x > 6 > > So of 48 IPs returned only 19 are actually usable. This is slowing down > peer bringup for the Android apps, which don't currently save the addresses > of last-used peers (yes, I know we should fix this). > > I was talking to a friend a few days ago about Bitcoin, he seemed > interested. I'm hoping he might take on DNS seeding as a project. A custom > DNS server that watches the network to find long-lived peers that run the > latest version would be helpful for resolving this kind of thing. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > BlackBerry® DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA > The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. > Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies. > Sessions, hands-on labs, demos & much more. Register early & save! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rim-blackberry-1 > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --000e0cd48ebe292f5704a99a4916 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike,<div><br></div><div>I think I can=A0contribute=A0to your DNS seeding p= roject. Could you help define long-lived peers?=A0</div><div><br></div><div= >-rick</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at = 3:04 AM, Mike Hearn <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net= ">mike@plan99.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">This is expected to happen from time to tim= e of course as it's inherently racy, but there are a <i>lot</i>=A0of ba= d nodes appearing in the DNS seeds.<div> <br></div><div><div><div><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">$ = nmap -oG /tmp/x -p 8333 `dig +short <a href=3D"http://bitseed.bitcoin.org.u= k" target=3D"_blank">bitseed.bitcoin.org.uk</a> <a href=3D"http://dnsseed.b= luematt.me" target=3D"_blank">dnsseed.bluematt.me</a> <a href=3D"http://bit= seed.xf2.org" target=3D"_blank">bitseed.xf2.org</a>`</font></div> </div></div><div><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">...</font>= </div><div><div><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">Nmap done: = 48 IP addresses (25 hosts up) scanned in 9.80 seconds</font></div> </div><div><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div= ><div><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">$ grep -c 'closed= ' /tmp/x</font></div> <div><font face=3D"'courier new', monospace">6<br></font><br></div>= <div>So of 48 IPs returned only 19 are actually usable. This is slowing dow= n peer bringup for the Android apps, which don't currently save the add= resses of last-used peers (yes, I know we should fix this).</div> <div><br></div><div>I was talking to a friend a few days ago about Bitcoin,= he seemed interested. I'm hoping he might take on DNS seeding as a pro= ject. A custom DNS server that watches the network to find long-lived peers= that run the latest version would be helpful for resolving this kind of th= ing.</div> <br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------= -------<br> BlackBerry&reg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA<br> The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts.<br> Get tools for creating Super Apps. See the latest technologies.<br> Sessions, hands-on labs, demos & much more. 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